February 2007
Volume 6 / Issue 1

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AMD/ATI R600 GPU Preview
The battle for graphics superiority continues. AMD/ATI most powerful graphic card Radeon X1950 XTX could not go toe to toe with NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX on the graphics card battlefield. While NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX is getting loyalty from enthusiasts, rival AMD/ATI is on to something big. It is so big that it requires up to 265W of dedicated power supply to fire up AMD/ATI  monstrous high-end graphic card.

It appears the graphics card battle for 2007 has just begun and AMD/ATI is at full momentum, offering new and unseen technology. If all the leaked features in regards to the R600 are accurate, AMD/ATI will definitely regain the graphic card battle field once again.

Next-generation of AMD/ATI GPU tape-out from various sources.
Name Scheme
Rumor has reported that AMD/ATI R600 next-generation of lineup card will be named as Radeon X2000 (X2K) series. Due to product launch delay and much secrecy around final specs most of the information is speculative and may change in coming months.
Name Core Die Size

Notes

X2x00 XTX R600 80 nm Total of 1GB GDDR4 | Two 6-pin PCI-E power connectors | 12-inch PCB
X2x00 XT R600 80 nm 512MB GDDR4 | One 8-pin PCI-E power connector | 9-inch PCB | Clock slower than XTX
X2x00 XL R600 80 nm Maybe Rage Theater chip | One 8-pin PCI-E power connector | 9-inch PCB | Clock slower then XT
X2000 GT R600 80 nm Used GDDR3 | One 8-pin PCI-E power connector | 2 GB GDDR3 for high-end/FireGL models | 9-inch PCB | The base for GPGPU lineup card, which rumored to be named as "AMD Stream Processor 2"
What about Vista support?

The R600 GPU is designed "from the ground up" with Windows Vista and DirectX10 in mind and backward compatible with Windows XP and Linux support. DX10 is a superior new API that is exclusive to Windows Vista so you will need a compatible video card and the Vista operating system to enjoy it on next generation games and other multimedia applications.

The GPU and Memory Bandwidth

Picture from www.bit-tech.net

The silicon die has been rotated 45 degrees and size is expected to be 12% to 25% larger than predecessor R580 GPU.  It's going to be on a 80 nm or a 65 nm process and transistor around 720 million. The core clock frequency are ranging from 700 to 800 MHz and rumored over 1000 MHz. 

 

There will be two memory type: GDDR-4 and GDDR-3.

  • 2.5 GHz GDDR-4 => 160.0 GB/s bandwidth
  • 2.4 GHz GDDR-4 => 153.6 GB/s bandwidth
  • 2.0 GHz GDDR-4 => 140.8 GB/s bandwidth
  • 2.0 GHz GDDR-3 => 115.2 GB/s bandwidth
 
R600 PCB CLASSES
The R600 GPU will be manufactured in four different PCBs targeting different group of consumers.  Starting with the 12" XTX (main stream class):  features a whooping 1G GDDR-4 memory (total of 16 memory chip) and 512-bit memory interface.  The memory clock is expected to be 2.4GHz clock, which is 153.6 GB/s bandwidth or higher.  The core clock is rumored to be around 700 to 1000 MHz or higher.  The power connector is dual 6-pin PCI-E.  The 12" XTX will be the heaviest of all current high-end graphic card.
Second is the 9" XT (performance class).  This card PCB size level is same as X1950XTX or 8800GTS.  The downgrade in core/memory speed enable the PCB to be shorten. It is pack with fast GDDR-4 memory.  The card comes in 512MB or 256MB (depends on price) with 512-bit memory interface. The PCI-E power connector is one 8-pin.
Third is the 9" XL (value class).  Although it's a 9" PCB, the design is different from XTX and XL class. This card will feature normal clocks and offer option for OEM to patch it up with cool feature (possibly imbedded Rage Theater chip). Memory type is still GDDR-4 and PCI-E power connector is one 8-pin.  
The fourth 9" GT is a whole new class. It utilizes affordable chip and top it up with massive GDDR-3 memory.  1GB and 2GB version of memory are in development plan for this card. This card will be the building ground for AMD GPGPU (General Purpose GPU) boards, which referring to "AMD Processor 2".
 
Cooling and Interface Support
As for cooling goes, R600 high-end models will incorporate a dual-slot air cooler (designed to dissipate 250 Watts power) and a large heat sink with 4 heat pipes as stock cooler.  Middle-end and low-end models are reported with a single-slot air coolers. Rumor reported an air-water hybrid cooler with pump on the cooler is in development stage.

The card interface will be consisted of a true PCI-E x16, DVI or HDMI, Dual-HDMI (v.1.3) support and video in and out.  CrossFire enable will make R600 as the most powerful card capable of CrossFire without a Master Card or an external Y-shaped dongle to connect the two cards.

ATI R600 Sample ? (picture taken from www.vr-zone.com)

 
Power Consumption
To meet PCI-SIG graphics compliance, the R600 PCB was re-designed down to 9" for cooling improvement and added 8-pin connector for additional power on top of the current 6-pin connector.  The 12" PCB however, does not care and uses only dual 6-pin power connector like the 8800GTX. R600 is a monster power consumption ranging from 130W to 265W. This increase in power demand will enable power supply vendor to manufacture high scale wattage power supply (1000W PSU) to support the R600 and other components or additional internal or external power supply solely for powering up the R600.
 
The R600 Specifications
  • Core working frequency ranging at 700 MHz to 800 MHz, and to a rumored over 1000 MHz
  • 64 4-Way SIMD Unified Shaders, 128 Shader Operations/Cycle
  • 32 TMUs, 16 ROPs
  • 512 bit Memory Controller, full 32 bit per chip connection
  • GDDR3 at 900 MHz clock speed (January)
  • GDDR4 at 1.1 GHz clock speed (March, revised edition)
  • Total bandwidth 115 GB/s on GDDR3
  • Total bandwidth 140 GB/s on GDDR4
  • Consumer memory support 1024 MB
  • DX10 full compatibility with draft DX10.1 vendor-specific cap removal (unified programming)
  • 32FP internal processing
  • Hardware support for GPU clustering (any 2^n number, not limited to Dual or Quad-GPU)
  • Hardware DVI-HDCP support (High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection)
  • Hardware Quad-DVI output support (Limited to workstation editions)
  • Multi-GPU cluster solutions will be available for the workstation market only until March, 2007
Processing Power:
  • 105,000,000,000 SOps (Shader Operations Per Second)
  • 2,000,000,000 TCps (Triangle Calculations Per Second)
  • 28 GTps (Gigatexels Per Second)
Benchmarks
AMD/ATI has not made any comments to the tape-out information whether they are legitimate or not. More information will be revealed when they launch the R600 demo at CeBIT somewhere in Mid-February. Stay tune for more reveling R600 technology.
Information courtesy of: http://en.wikipedia.org | http://level505.com | www.theinquirer.net

 
AMD/ATI 480X/580X crossfire chipsets
With the merging of AMD and ATI there were many questions as to the survival of several key ATI products and technologies that had already been announced and in production. While they may have lost the ATI name, AMD chose to retain the very high quality chipsets originally branded the Radeon Xpress 3200 and the Radeon Xpress 1600. Although the chipsets were renamed the 580X CrossFire and 480X CrossFire respectively, they did remain in their original configurations and kept their unique features.

Supporting the AM2 and the Socket 939 Processors, these new chipsets have been mated up with the AMD SB600 Chipsets in order to offer the highest possible performance at a very reasonable price. Originally the Socket 939 version of this chipset was paired with AMD's  SB450 and SB460 which received mixed reviews due to it's feature set and slow USB transfer rates. With the launch of the AM2 socket, AMD also introduced the SB600 south bridge which brought stellar performance and a great boost in the features available to the chipset.

AMD 580X CrossFire Chipset

Starting with the higher-end 580X chipset, AMD set out to try and redefine the gaming platform. With unrestricted 2x16 PCI Express graphics capabilities, and being designed from the ground up with CrossFire graphics in mind, the gaming performance available is comparable, if not better than any competing solution. AMD utilizes a single chip solution for their dual PCI Express x16 whereas other companies use multiple chips to handle the communication tasks. While there is denial from the rest that this causes any bottleneck in the operation, it is kind of telling that the competition has already started to shift to a matching technology for their future products.

Motherboards featuring the AMD 580X CrossFire Chipset

 

Model ASUS M2R32-MVP ECS KA3 MVP MSI K9A-Platinum
ASI
SKU
52325 51715 52274
 CPU
Support
AM2
Athlon 64 X2, Athlon 64 FX,
Athlon 64, Sempron
AM2
Athlon 64 X2, Athlon 64 FX,
Athlon 64, Sempron
AM2
Athlon 64 X2, Athlon 64 FX,
Athlon 64
Memory
Support
Dual Channel DDR2 800/667/533
4 DIMMS, 8GB Max
Dual Channel DDR2 800/667/533
4 DIMMS, 8GB Max
Dual Channel DDR2 800/667/533
4 DIMMS, 8GB Max
Slots 2 x PCI Express x16
2 x PCI Express x1
2 x PCI
2 x PCI Express x16
2 x PCI Express x1
2 x PCI
2 x PCI Express x16
2 x PCI Express x1
2 x PCI
CrossFire ATI CrossFire 2 @ x16 mode ATI CrossFire 2 @ x16 mode ATI CrossFire 2 @ x16 mode
 Audio ADI 1988A 8-channel HD Realtek ALC883 8-channel HD Realtek ALC883 8-channel HD
LAN Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit Agere E1310I Gigabit
Realtek 8100C 10/100
Realtek 8110SC & 8111B
Gigabit LAN
USB 10 USB 2.0 / 1.1 supported 10 USB 2.0 / 1.1 supported 10 USB 2.0 / 1.1 supported
1394a VIA VT6308P 1 port, 1 header VIA VT6308P 2 headers VIA VT6308P 1 port, 1 header
Other eSATA port on back    

 

Model DFI Infinity CFX3200-M2/G ABIT AT8 32X ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe
ASI
SKU
55099 44970 46255
 CPU
Support
AM2
Athlon 64 X2, Athlon 64 FX,
Athlon 64
Socket 939
Athlon 64 X2, Athlon 64 FX,
Athlon 64, Sempron
Socket 939
Opteron, Athlon 64 X2,
Athlon 64 FX, Athlon 64
Memory
Support
Dual Channel DDR2 800/667/533
4 DIMMS, 8GB Max
Dual Channel DDR 400
4 DIMMS, 4GB Max
Dual Channel DDR 400/333/266
4 DIMMS, 4GB Max
Slots 2 x PCI Express x16
2 x PCI Express x1
3 x PCI
2 x PCI Express x16
2 x PCI Express x1
2 x PCI
2 x PCI Express x16
2 x PCI Express x1
3 x PCI
CrossFire ATI CrossFire 2 @ x16 mode ATI CrossFire 2 @ x16 mode ATI CrossFire 2 @ x16 mode
 Audio Realtek ALC882 8-channel HD 8-channel HD Realtek ALC882 8-channel
LAN Realtek 8110SB & 8111B
Gigabit LAN
Gigabit Marvell 88E8053 PCIe Gigabit
Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit
USB 10 USB 2.0 / 1.1 supported 10 USB 2.0 / 1.1 supported 8 USB 2.0 / 1.1 supported
1394a VIA VT6307 1 port, 1 header VIA VT6308P 1 port TI 1394a 2 headers
Other      

  AMD 480X CrossFire Chipset

The lower end offering from AMD is no slouch in either the performance or the feature categories either. The PCI Express for CrossFire drops down to 8x8 support since this chipset is only utilizing 20 lanes for PCI Express instead of the 40 lanes available to it's bigger sibling. This and the lack of the ATI Xpress Route single chip solution for CrossFire are the only real differences between the two chipsets. Unless you are running the highest end video cards and checking your performance numbers regularly, you'd probably never notice the difference.

Motherboards using the AMD 480X CrossFire Chipset
 

 

Model ABIT AT8 ASUS A8R- MVP
ASI
SKU
44970 43423
 CPU
Support
Socket 939
Athlon 64 X2, Athlon 64 FX,
Athlon 64
Socket 939
Athlon 64 X2, Athlon 64 FX,
Athlon 64, Sempron
Memory
Support
Dual Channel DDR 400
4 DIMMS, 8GB Max
Dual Channel DDR 400/333/266
4 DIMMS, 4GB Max
Slots 2 x PCI Express x16
2 x PCI Express x1
2 x PCI
2 x PCI Express x16
2 x PCI Express x1
3 x PCI
CrossFire ATI CrossFire 2 @ x16 mode ATI CrossFire 2 @ x16 mode
 Audio Realtek ALC882D
8-channel HD
ADI AD1986A 6-channel HD
LAN Gigabit Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit
USB 8 USB 2.0 / 1.1 supported 8 USB 2.0 / 1.1 supported
1394a 1 header 1 port, 1 header
Other    

Comparison Specs for the AMD 480X / 580X CrossFire Chipsets (differences highlighted in red)
 

  AMD 580X

Chipset
AMD 480X

Chipset
CPU Support Athlon64 / X2 / FX Socket-AM2 Athlon64 / X2 / FX Socket-AM2
HyperTransport
Support
800 MHz / 1 GHz HTT 800 MHz / 1 GHz HTT
Multi-GPU
Support
Crossfire
PCIe 16 x 16
Crossfire
PCIe 8 x 8
PCI Express
Lanes
40 Lanes 20 Lanes
32-bit PCI Slots 6 6
Serial ATA 4 x Serial ATA-II/300 Ports 4 x Serial ATA-II/300 Ports
Serial RAID RAID 0, 1, 0+1 RAID 0, 1, 0+1
Parallel ATA 2 Devices 2 Devices
Audio Interface High-Definition (Azalia) 8-Channel High-Definition (Azalia) 8-Channel
USB 2.0 Ports 10 10
ATI Express Route Yes  
 

 

AMD Quad FX (4X4) Platform Review

AMD Quad FX Platform with Dual Socket Direct Connect (DSDC) Architecture

Are you into extreme “megatasking?" Do you want the raw power four execution cores on your motherboard? On November 30th, 2006 AMD announced the Quad FX Platform that brings two dual-core processors into a single system that is not a server platform but rather a high-end personal workstation platform with advanced graphics card support.

Yes the Quad Core FX platform features the ability to install two physical dual-core processors into one system as well as fast DDR2 memory, SLI graphics, and high definition audio solutions - a true enthusiast platform built for speed and scalability. In fact the 4X4 codename means 4 cores + 4 graphics cards.

The AMD Quad FX Platform is powered by pairs of the AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-70 series dual-core processors, the newest additions to the award-winning AMD Athlon 64 FX processor family. The new platform lets enthusiasts make the most of their overall computing experience while gaming, editing audio/video and streaming high-definition content. This is a true multi-purpose power workstation with scaleable performance that brings professional digital content creators the extra edge they need by accelerating multimedia tasks up to 100% over a single dual core platform.

The Quad FX will allow you to take greater advantage of Windows Vista Ultimate Edition multithreading capabilities. While costing significantly more than a normal desktop the Quad FX is still an affordable combination that brings together high performance elements rarely, if ever, seen together. This extra cost will be a bargain for those who make a living working on their PC especially those creating multimedia content, and already many leading gaming developers have been working on massively multi-threaded games that can use two or more execution cores.

Main Tech Features

This platform consist of a number of unique components and features that build on AMD Athlon 64 and FX architecture and design philosophy:

Two Socket 1207 (socket F) FX-70 processors: CPU are based on 0.09 micron process technology and have 1MB L2 cache per core: These CPU also feature Dual-channel DDR2 SDRAM memory controller (like AM2 processors) and three 2GHz HyperTransport links. HyperTransport is one of the backbones the DSDC architecture (we talk about next). AMD will eventually release quad-core processors (codenamed Agena FX)compatible with this platform, allowing 8 cores per systems, sometime around mid 2007.

Dual Socket Direct Connect Architecture: DSDC Architecture enables high-bandwidth communication between matched pairs of AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-70, AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-72, and AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-74 dual-core processors. DSDC Architecture is designed for the multi-core, multi-threaded future with planned platform upgradeability to eight cores (dual quad-core systems).

Dual Socket Motherboard with Nvidia Chipsets: Nvidia is AMD's launch partner and is providing the first chipsets the NVIDIA nForce 680a MCPs. These MCP (media and communications processors) are certified Vista ready and designed to be extremely high performance chipsets than can supply the board with two full speed x16 PCIe for SLI and an additional two x8 PCIe slots to install up to four independent graphics cards supporting up to eight monitors. As with Opteron processors the DDR2 memory controller is built into each processor (two slots per CPU). Hypertransport bus links directly to one processor with a coherent bus between the processors. The massive component support does not stop there. MCP supports up to 12 SATA 3Gbps hard drives for highly scalable storage. Below is a chipset diagram.

 

Quad FX Processors
These are AMD boxed processors with stock active heatsinks.  All are also dual core and based on the 90nm SOI die process technology, 2000MHz Hyper Transport Links, and F3 stepping.

ASI SKU

Model

Clock speed

Socket Type

L2 cache
(per core)

TDP
(per CPU)

 56152

Athlon 64 FX-70

2.6GHz

Socket F (1207 pin)

2MB (1MB per core)

125 W

 56153

Athlon 64 FX-72

2.8GHz

Socket F (1207 pin)

2MB (1MB per core)

125 W

 56154

Athlon 64 FX-74

3.0GHz

Socket F (1207 pin)

2MB (1MB per core)

125 W

Quad FX Motherboards

Asus is the exclusive launch partner of AMD offering the first and currently only Quad FX motherboard on the market.

 First Quad FX Motherboard - ASUS L1N64-SLI (ASI SKU# 56568)

The ASUS L1N64-SLI WS is powered by two NVIDIA nForce 680a MCP chipsets. Two socket-1207 processors are supported with four memory slots (two slots allocated per processor). With two nForce 680a MCPs the ASUS L1N64-SLI WS features 12 SATA 3.0 Gbps ports and one PATA for storage connectivity.

Networking features of the ASUS L1N64-SLI WS include dual Gigabit Ethernet ports. The onboard Gigabit Ethernet features NVIDIA’s FirstPacket, DualNet, Teaming and TCP/IP offload technologies. Audio is powered by a high definition audio codec with optical and coaxial SPDIF outputs.

Due to the complex design of AMD’s 4x4 platform, the ASUS L1N64-SLI WS uses a  larger than ATX form factor (The L1N64-SLI WS is 12" by 10.5" standard ATX is 12" x 9.6") ) which will not fit in smaller ATX only cases. Since dual processors require a little extra power, ASUS has equipped the L1N64-SLI WS with an 8-pin EPS12v and Molex power connectors.

Benchmarking Performance and Power Efficiency
The computer technology website Tech Report (www.techreport.com) has done benchmarking and comparative testing on this platform using the Asus motherboard and comparing them to results from testing Intel Core 2 Extreme Quad processor QX6700. The full report is as follows: http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q4/quad-fx/index.x?pg=4

For those currently running AMD Dual core processors (Athlon X2 or FX series) and need a permanent big boost to create /edit multimedia titles, 3D animation, etc, then the Quad FX platform is definitely worth the investment compared to the amount of time you will save.

The Quad FX only major shortcomings are in relatively high power usage (per processor and overall system), especially when compared to a Quad Core Intel (Quad Core 2 Duo). In the recent past some people have used dual Opteron workstation motherboards but for those who want the top of the line in the AMD workstation space plus truly advanced graphics support the Quad FX is a clear winner.

Recommended Cases and power supplies
As mentioned above the only current motherboard is larger than ATX but it has standard ATX screw holes. We have not been able to get any information on compatible cases but a full tower case would be minimum. Most likely the higher end Antec or Thermaltake gaming towers will have sufficient room, as well as certain server/workstation pedestal cases from Chenbro or Enlight.  Recommended power supply on fully loaded system would be 600W or higher ATX 2.2 specification to provide enough current and the correct 24 and 8 pin power connectors. There are many power supply from Thermaltake, Antec, NSpire, Zalman and OCZ that will work.
 

 
Windows Vista and Office 2007 Readiness Center
ASI has created a Vista and Office 2007 information center for resellers and system builder at the following address - http://www.asisupport.com/vista/
Please visit to learn about Vista Editions, features, installation and more. Vista and Office 2007 - better together.

 
nVidia 650i SLI chipset
Not satisfied with only ruling the graphics card world, NVIDIA recently launched the nForce 680i SLI chipset which took the high-end gaming world by storm. Thankfully, they decided not to leave all of the mainstream gamers out and NVIDIA has now followed suit with the 650i SLI chipset.

Though the differences in the chipsets are slight, they are enough to bump the price and the target market segment down to a more everyday gamers level. NVIDIA has always been known for their high end offerings and their mainstream products seem to get lost in the shuffle. For years NVIDIA has been making quality products that extend across all market segments and allow even those on a limited budget to enjoy spirited gaming if that's what they desire, or just to be able to rely on great chipsets that have offered rock solid stability and added features that other manufacturers had decided not to offer with their products (like built-in RAID and MediaShield applications) until NVIDIA started giving them away for free. After seeing NVIDIA's examples and the success that they had with them, the rest quickly began to follow.

Many board partners offer NVIDIA chipset based motherboards, but when you are looking for consistency and quality you really don't need to look any further than ASUS. While their prices may be a bit higher on motherboards than their competitors, the features, quality, and support you get for those few extra dollars far outweighs the cost delta.

For quite a bit less than the higher-end 680i board you can get your hands on an extremely good SLI capable 650i board which gives you almost all of the same features, but at a greatly reduced price. ASUS has stepped up with their offering, the P5N-E SLI (ASI SKU 56353), which features the 650i in it's best possible configuration, done in a way that ASUS has become famous for. Supporting Intel's latest Quad-Core processor in bus speeds up to 1066MHz (and reportedly 1333MHz when it finally arrives!), SLI video card configurations (2 x 8 PCI Express with LinkBoost Technology) and Dual-Channel DDR2 memory in speeds up to 800MHz, this board can make the main-stream gamer feel like he's getting the same quality and features that the guys with unlimited budgets can buy.

Browse the "official" specifications for the nForce chipsets below to see the slight differences between the 680i and it's sibling the 650i.

  nForce 680i nForce 650i
Target
Market
Hardcore
Gamers
Mainstream
Gamers
CPU Support Intel Socket 775
Core 2 Extreme
Core 2 Quad
Core 2 Duo
Celeron D
Pentium 4
Pentium D 9XX
Pentium D 8XX
Intel Socket 775
Core 2 Extreme
Core 2 Quad
Core 2 Duo
Celeron D
Pentium 4
Pentium D 9XX
Pentium D 8XX
FSB (MHz) 1333 1066
SLI 2 x 16 1 x 16, 2 x 8
3rd PCI E Option Yes, 1 x 8 No
SLI-Ready Memory 1200MHz 800MHz
DDR2 Memory 800MHz 800MHz
NVIDIA LinkBoost
Technology
Yes No
Gigabit Ethernet 2 1
SATA/PATA Drives 6/2 4/4
RAID Yes Yes
USB Ports 10 8
PCI Slots 5 5

What you don't necessarily see in the chart above is the magic of ASUS to offer features that NVIDIA doesn't officially support on this chipset, yet ASUS gets to work flawlessly. Starting with the 1333 MHz bus speed that ASUS says will easily be available via a BIOS update once capable CPUs are released, you'll find that this is a feature normally only available on the 680i boards.

ASUS has also integrated the EPP (Enhanced Profile Protocol) memory capability into the board (read; overclocking) for good measure. Those of you who choose to run a SLI video card configuration on this motherboard will also be glad that ASUS also broke the rules and added NVIDIA's LinkBoost Technology (PDF available here) into this sweet package. LinkBoost Technology automatically overclocks the PCI Express and MCP HyperTransport bus speed by 25%. All this happens without user intervention, it's plug and play overclocking brought to you from the clever people at NVIDIA and ASUS.

The bottom line on this board is, well... the bottom line. If you can live with 8 x 8 speed SLI and without a few other features that really don't affect the vast majority of consumers, then your bottom line is going to reflect about a 45% price reduction over the NVIDIA 680i based motherboards. When trying to build a rocking gaming rig without breaking the bank, this is an unbelievably good deal. Add to that the ability to run pretty much any Intel CPU from the Pentium D to the Core 2 Quad Processor, and you've got a platform to build on which should get you through the next few years at a minimum.


 

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